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Vorce: The human race has been backed up by 30,000 years worth of history and death...that's a lot of death, Blee. The dead has been piling up, so to speak, from every single human being that has expired since the dawning of our species. Death has become a continuum momentum of force built up until its become a roaring tumbling wave, unstoppable. But what if this force hit a wall or gate? Tried to be control? Let's say we try to contain that wave into, say, a drinking glass? That container would shatter, to say the least. And why, our dear friend Arborgast Jones...he is, unfortunately, that glass.

Cox Kidd

I just recently was going by the Ferncliffe cemetery today when I saw two tombstones that sat side by side each other. One was Cox and the other Kidd. Cox Kidd!! Or any variation on it like Kidd Cox or Kiddman Cox or Cox Kiddman, but Kidd for short. He shall be known as the town ruffian, upstart, and self-proclaimed rival of Arborgast Jones. For some odd reason I really like the idea of this person and I want him to look dashing, slightly snobbish and baby-faced handsome. He's utterly obsessed with Arborgast and one-upping him, though Arborgast isn't really aware or acknowledging of this rivalry. lolz Hey, tell me what you think?

PICS!!



So this is evil Arborgast! All of these are just bad sketches but I'm putting them up for inspiration. There is more!




VLLLLAAAAAAHOOOOOOSSS!!! Evil looking son of a bitch, huh? I want him to be like a evil version of Converse Knox, extrememly evilly cool looking but incompetent, but more successful than Knox, because Knox is just a silly sad man. LOL! I love you Knox!




Its everybody's favorite lake monster, Shelley! I actually really like this sketch of her, mischievious and flirtatious. No wonder Converse falls head over heels for her.




Where the real Arborgast is. Protected from the outside world deep under the weeping willow tree. ANGST! Yeah! XD
So after Amanda sent me her postcard it gave me a funny idea. She mentioned that there was a Blee moment and I thought "hmm, how can I turn that into a trait of Blee's?" Based on the "Are you talking about Cock" incident, Blee should have a fear or awe of the vagina. "Are you talking about the...vagina? And he'll have eyes like this O_O LOL

Maybe not. Open foruuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm...........GO!!!
"Strip 1
Converse Knox (after his intro scene): This is quite a nice village you have here old chap!
Arborgast: Indeed, sir! It's simply a shame you can never leave now.
Converse: ...What?
Arborgast: Nothing! Nothing!

Strip 2
Converse: Is it true that you cannot contact anybody outside the village here?
David P.: Why yes. Arborgast says it has something to do with the bizarre weather patterns.
Vorce (had been listening some distance away, eerily, but still within hearing range of the two): The fools! They have no idea! ::laughs sinisterly::
Blee: Have no idea of what, Vorce? Huh huh huh? Tell me tell me!
Vorce: ::rolls his eyes, perhaps with a sweatdrop::

Do you think Blee calls Vorce "Lord Vorce"? Probably not, but I thought I'd ask."

I think that Arborgast as no idea that people can't leave because he thinks that what he has created IS reality, and isn't aware that he is creating another universe, so to speak. Only the Arborgast under the tree is fully aware of the conditions of what he did. Its like Arborgast's subconscious is under the tree, and Arborgast's aware conscious is interacting inside the town, but the conscious isn't aware of the subconscious.

But I do think it would be more subtle if the dialogue went like this:
Strip 1
Converse: This is quite a nice village you got here old chap!
Arborgast: Oh what a delightful fellow you are, sir! If you like it so much, you should stay here forever. I simply can't ever let you leave now, since you'll make a perfect addition to our town!
Converse: ...What?
Arborgast: Oh ho! I'm just fooling you good sir! Bahahahaha!
Converse: Hahaha...ha?

Strip 2:
Suggestions: add a stress make to Vorce's head and we've got gold! Other than that, perfect.

LOL And whenever Blee calls Vorce 'lord', it should seriously piss Vorce off because they are trying to keep a low profile. Do you think that IF Vorce ever whacked Blee in anger in public, Blee would moan happily? Or looked like he enjoyed it? And everyone one would be like O.ov or be like "oh, that Blee, he's never upset!".

I was thinking out a time line of certain events, like the events of the beginnings. I believe that it should start out with Nicklin trying to get to another village in a matter of great urgency, like he's a reporter needing to get a story from a far off town. He ends up getting lost on the way and ends up in ferncliff. We are all in agreeance that Nicklin stumbles into the town on accident? His arrival should be right after or in process of Arborgast created the mimic reality. Like let's say that Arborgast funeral that Nicklin happens upon is the funeral that is for him dying the first time. The creation started right after Arborgast started dying but wasn't completed until his 'astral' body rose from the grave that it was completed? So Nicklin was there to witness the birth of the late Arborgast Jones. It isn't until after Nicklin arrives that Blee and Vorce show up in town, but for all purposes looks like they are moving into the scary house on the hill, which wasn't there before until Vorce and Blee showed up. The real issue here is that should the fake universe be in affect long before Nicklin gets there or as its starting? And should Vorce and Blee be there before or after Nicklin? Just think about the possible of both of them.
We just have to put an original spin of the split personality schtick. Go sit on it awhile and see what you can do. I was just thinking that Arborgast was so powerful that he create a split personality to contain the power. Its like saying there are two people to deal with that massive power instead of one.

"1) It really could just be the name of the Old Man's late best friend. Perhaps a freakishly powerful one who cursed his own name.
2) It could be like a chant, or the name of a spell, that when said, amplifies somebody's power.
3) It could be the name of an evil demon who can possess anybody named "Arborgast" because it is his own name.
4) There could have been a prophesy long ago about a man named Arborgast who would save the world. Or destroy it. Who would rid the world of all magic. Something the Old Man really wants?"

How about an ancient word of power? Maybe add in a prophesy here and there, and maybe a demon who's his to call but he doesn't know its a demon and calls him Carl. Carl hates Arborgast because he makes him do stupid errand things and treats him like a lackey. Never lets him do evil. His real name is Tsagrobra! Arborgast spelt backwards. Maybe that's too much...I'll just stick with ancient word of power tied to prophesy. But it also a curse. Titus Winters knew that a child born from the two strongest families was destined to create a child of destiny. He's just helping fate along. Maybe we're making it too complex. How about a cursed word of power that's tied to destiny?

"But yes, I like the idea that the cursed name could get corrupted somehow, from which a split personality would stem. Maybe whomever bears the name Arborgast will be pure of heart and an excellent leader, but somehow the curse gets warped and in order to make Arborgast "pure of heart", the spell accidently just rips the innocence away from the baseness. And thus you have two people. Tell me what you think..."

Maybe, just add in the two personalities controling one power thing and it might work. I just think after all these ideas, we are going TO HAVE TO come back and simplify some of this because too much jewelery can be too gaudy and heavey if you catch my metaphor.


"Vorce discovers this super-reality and deems it the perfect place to hide from the Council and Vlahos (VLAHOOOOS). Perhaps the thing with vampires is that yes, they feed from blood, but what they get from the blood is the 'living engery' you mentioned. So really, Vorce would have plenty to feed on in Arborgat's super-reality."

I had that exact same thought, though you know what? I couldn't for the life of me remember Vlahos' (VLAHOOOOS LOL totally forgot about that) name. I actually drew a sketch of him the other day. I'll try to find a scanner and post it on the blog. I've been doing some other sketches so when I get them up you can tell me if you like them.

There is a reason why Nicklin is special but its not in one place yet so I can't say. Its something about his natural curiosity. I don't think all the people would be want to have their real lives back. I think that Nicklin tries to convince Arborgast to put everything back to normal. Also his family shows up and try to get him to stop it too. But they can't because Arborgast is technically dead...and if he REALLY died the people in the town would die with him. Also the attack of the vampire council with set some scenes and other plots into motion to come to the final conclusion. Don't forget about Minnnie Peticrew. She is so smart she also see's through the veil of Arborgast deceptions but chooses to live within it rather than spoil everyone else's illusions. There are some people who know, some who guess, and some who are trying to figure out the mystery.

The super reality is created as Arborgast lays dying from shooting his own eye out in attempts to kill himself (or someone else try to kill him?). And a great wave of regret sets the pieces in motions. In the void that he creates in his own body his spiritual reserves creates the vortex and the hyper reality. His void creates a void because the perfect supernatural human being is incomplete, thus off setting nature's balance and causing rips in time and reality. Um I'm so going to have to talk about this face to face! lol I really wish I had skype! So what do you think? How about we through around some funny ideas to balance out all this drama? How about a focus of Nicklin's character? Who he is and why is he there? His personality, and all the things that will freak him out!

Mar. 22nd, 2007

"That serves very well as an explaination for evil Arborgast. Or the curse twisted into something worse because of being killed, murdered or suicide. I mean, possibly he was trying to kill the part of him that was cursed (oh angsty Arborgast)."

Ok, I really like the idea of the evil Arborgast being tied to the name the Old Man gave him. But, I have to say that I want (almost need! desperately!) evil Arborgast to be a part of Arborgast, personality wise. I love the idea of having this struggle to be one whole person, to tire of fighting against one's darker impulses, to find one's identity and stop hiding. It's one of my favorite themes in literature. Arborgast would need to confront and embrace this harsh side of himself in order to fix the problem. Would that not be a meaningful (hopefully not too cheesy) part of the story? We can make it not cheesy if we do it together!!

The original idea behind having the Old Man give the baby the special/cursed name of "Arborgast" was to make him even more freakishly powerful. At least, that's how it was in my mind, I remember specifically (things can and do change). I mean, this kid is already close to god-like, and having this special name would just be icing on the cake. But if we want a darker reason...let's list some possibilities.

1) It really could just be the name of the Old Man's late best friend. Perhaps a freakishly powerful one who cursed his own name.
2) It could be like a chant, or the name of a spell, that when said, amplifies somebody's power.
3) It could be the name of an evil demon who can possess anybody named "Arborgast" because it is his own name.
4) There could have been a prophesy long ago about a man named Arborgast who would save the world. Or destroy it. Who would rid the world of all magic. Something the Old Man really wants?

See, if we could find the motivation first, maybe the effect would stem from that. Would the Old Man (Titus Winters if I recall) really want to harm his great-grandson, or would he have a different agenda? I can't see him wanting the death of anybody from the Titus family, who pride themselves on their excellent blood-lines. Maybe he thinks that buy naming this child Arborgast he is somehow insuring the lad will become the next Winters leader?

But yes, I like the idea that the cursed name could get corrupted somehow, from which a split personality would stem. Maybe whomever bears the name Arborgast will be pure of heart and an excellent leader, but somehow the curse gets warped and in order to make Arborgast "pure of heart", the spell accidently just rips the innocence away from the baseness. And thus you have two people. Tell me what you think...

"Their living energies are trapped within Arborgast own version of reality, or the reality he wishes to see, so they play out as characters in his mind."

Ok, I love this idea too. My original idea of everyone being dead was based on the fact that all dead things will be revived in the end of the story, as we discussed years ago. I think it's written down in that journal I got from Macy's, do you remember? It was right after buying make-up at Macy's that we stopped by the cemetary...in any case that journal is in California.

But this is also interestingly psychological and magical at the same time. This super-reality that Arborgast has created is at once in his mind and imposed over the reality of the village. Here's an idea: Vorce discovers this super-reality and deems it the perfect place to hide from the Council and Vlahos (VLAHOOOOS). Perhaps the thing with vampires is that yes, they feed from blood, but what they get from the blood is the 'living engery' you mentioned. So really, Vorce would have plenty to feed on in Arborgat's super-reality.

"The people are real and are themselves, but oblivious to a hurtful lifestyle where people die and fear and sadness exist. The town of ferncliff is tangible and so are the people, but only mere mimics of life."

Very well said. Arborgast is trying to make a perfect reality. This story is becoming more and more perfect, and there is still a lot of fleshing out to do! Horray!

Re: Nicklin Booth--indeed, why would he be an exception? I mean, Converse Knox is certainly a part of the super-reality, despite coming from America as a representative of the Knox Exorcist family. I think I just got an idea: Maybe Arborgast only accepts certain people/things into his super-reality, ones he know have a possibility of becoming "oblivious to a hurtful lifestyle". Maybe some certain people who are intimate with pain and death and refuse to accept the pretty picture Arborgast is painting with his perfect super-reality can enter without being taken in in truth. Converse Knox is certainly not one of these people, he's too silly.

I just had a flash of a future scene, if you approve. I like the idea that the people who let themselves be oblivious to pain gradually begin to fight against the perfection (re: the Matrix, remember that?). I can see Arborgast being sadly confronted by everyone in the village who no longer want to live a lie, and finally, finally Arborgast has to break down and set reality to rights. Hmm.

Back to Nicklin--what would make him so impervious the very real desire in people for an ideal life? What could have happened to him, or perhaps, what special quality does he have that makes him different? Maybe, like when someone is able to see a thestral....

"Man in dog suit pees on Arthur, and he doesn't move but a little tear trickles down his eye."

...Please stop making me piss my pants with laughter.

Despite my obvious love of my own ideas, I am still up for radical change if you can point me in a different direction. After all, it took me a while but I know love the idea of making Arborgast a more serious story. Maybe I grew up a little. It seems that I myself wanted to make the world of Arborgast Jones a perfect little funny story. Sigh. But we can have funny and morbid at the same time! Yay!

We still need to pinpoint the exact time and motivation for the creation of the super-reality. I can't help but have the image of Arborgast ripping out his own eye, and from there it starts. Your thoughts?

My thoughts on the matter

"The old man is very reluctant because he knows John's potential (he has excellent sensative breeding and many good bloodline properties) but John was never going to go down that path. That, in his way, is his weird-property(BIG NOTE: *everyone* in this story is weird in SOME WAY).

To continue, The Old Man agrees to let John go ON ONE BIG CONDITION. Oh conditions....::chuckles evilly::

The Condition: John must name his first born child "Arborgast" no matter the gender.

It's a horrible name, but John agrees. Perhaps this "Arborgast" was an old friend of the Old Man. Little does he know that Arborgast is actually a very very special name. A "cursed" name you might call it. We'll work out just how and why the Old Man did this later."

That was posted back in 2005 by you if you remember. That serves very well as an explaination for evil Arborgast. Or the curse twisted into something worse because of being killed, murdered or suicide. I mean, possibly he was trying to kill the part of him that was cursed (oh angsty Arborgast). Also I like traumatized memories. I had also a side thought, back awhile ago, that it wasn't him you was being murdered but Ida! Oh, what man wouldn't do to have his lady love back. Maybe he tried to kill himself to be with her in death. I dunno, that's too heavey but I'm throwing it out there anyway.

"What if, when Arborgast killed himself, he accidently killed everybody else in the village? That way, it makes sense for them to all have tombstones and to not be bothered by weird shit. Perhaps when people wander into the village, at first there's nobody there. But for some reason, they're drawn to this tree in the graveyard in the middle of the village, and when they put their hand on it, the tree murders that person. When they turn around, suddenly the village is populated and they can't leave."

I don't know about everyone being dead dead. Its more of a metaphorical death, dead to the reality that is around them. I mean people will have a second body, but they are not dead. Their living energies are trapped within Arborgast own version of reality, or the reality he wishes to see, so they play out as characters in his mind. People rarely wander into the village because that area has gotten to be known as the cursed place where no one goes, so Nicklin Booth was just stupid enough to go in there.

If you remember right Blee is human so that wouldn't work out. Everything that is percieved in this world is real, so that the people in Arborgast world percieve what they think is real to be real. Therefore Vorce would not have a problem feeding himself. Beside Vorce is powerful enough (King of the Vampires) to leave whenever he wants and Blee with him. Vorce knows whats going on, maybe not the entire situation, but the condition at least. He'll be the one to elude to the readers, in little snippets, what's going on. He'll say things like "these people are oblivious to the reality in which they live" or "they still don't know that they are only pawns in his mind". The people are real and are themselves, but oblivious to a hurtful lifestyle where people die and fear and sadness exist. The town of ferncliff is tangible and so are the people, but only mere mimics of life. ARGH@! MY BRAIN HURTS! Maybe just touching Arborgast, you become a character in his world? But why would Nicklin Booth be different to actually see what was wrong? Maybe he is an outsider and not a real resident of the town, very much like Blee and Vorcem as they are aware of the problem too. Though Blee is so stupid that he probably wouldn't notice anyway. Vorce has to remind him and tell what's going on all the time. It'll be a running gag.

"Vorce, why are you saying those awfully silly things?"
"Blee, if you can't remember what I JUST told you five minutes ago, I'm not going to repeat myself."
"Pleeease, tell me! You're being a meanie!"

"Does he know that this is a seperate reality? Or did he forget? Or does only his other self know, and keeps the information hidden?"

Yes and yes! Exactly! He made himself forget, but the one under the willow knows.

Man in dog suit pees on Arthur, and he doesn't move but a little tear trickles down his eye.

I want to change that bit with Nicklin Booth. Instead of bleeding on the coffin, the words are already in grave on it (probably engraved on all the coffins), like other Arborgast is giving hints when he can. Nicklin opens the coffin and there is himself laying in the coffin, and that's when starts to bleed and freak out. I only used "Whatever is left leads you to the exit" as an example. We can play around with what is actually written.

Write any original ideas that you may have! A let me know what you think of this thoughts.
"I had drew this picture of Arborgast holding his monocle, about to take it off, with a evil look on his face as smoke or spirit fog billows out from the monocle. Also his clothes are levitating from all the spirit energy. I think maybe he killed himself to stop his evil side and somehow created this nexus which the town is contained in."

We need to make a decision about this left, monocled eye. So far we have two theories: that the left eye is a part/representation of the evil Arborgast, and that it is a portal/vortex to the real world.

I had a flash of an idea, starting with a question. How/when did the evil Arborgast manifest? Could it be that Arborgast himself thinks that the evil him is actually just a demon, and not part of himself? Maybe we could have this realization somewhere in the story. Anyway, this flash included a vision: Arborgast as a young child playing with ghouls and demons has a bad experience. After all, despite the fact that the supernatural world is drawn to him, he's bound to attract some terrible demons that can resist his magnetic lure at least a little. So perhaps as a boy he comes across a particularly evil ghost, maybe one who can see the future. He points at Arborgast and says, "Evil is inside you" or something. Arborgast takes this to mean that evil has 'possessed' him, not that he himself is evil. And maybe since the ghost pointed at him, Arborgast thinks he pointed at his left eye. And from there the personality starts to express itself.

Or maybe it was more traumatizing than that. I mean, we'd need to research the reasons people have split personalities. The above theory postulates that Arborgast simply 'has' a split personality from the beginning, for no reason. Should we bury a traumatizing event in his memory?

Poor Arborgast. We're gonna be mean to him. :^)

On to a present-day idea: What if, when Arborgast killed himself, he accidently killed everybody else in the village? That way, it makes sense for them to all have tombstones and to not be bothered by weird shit. Perhaps when people wander into the village, at first there's nobody there. But for some reason, they're drawn to this tree in the graveyard in the middle of the village, and when they put their hand on it, the tree murders that person. When they turn around, suddenly the village is populated and they can't leave.

This wouldn't affect Vorce and Blee because they're already dead. Still, they'd have to notice...maybe they're hiding there on purpose! Maybe the vortex of dead people repels most vampires because there's nothing to eat, or something. Arborgast has made some kind of alternate dimension of dead people, maybe they're not like most ghosts. Maybe he's made a place layered on top of the reality. Because the 'ghosts of the village' can move things and live like normal, they just can't leave. But the real village is a 'ghost town' (oh, a good pun) and even the ghosts aren't detected by anyone. He's made this alternate reality that you can only enter if you pass through the tree. Perhaps Vorce and Blee found this place and thought it perfect to hide from the vampires, so they purposefully passed through the tree. Vorce, as a vampire, is ok with it because he has Blee to drink from. He can't drink from anybody else, even though it feels like they have flesh and blood. These aren't ordinary ghosts. Do you understand what I'm trying to get at? If you don't agree with something (or everything), I'm fine with making up alternative plot devices.

This obviously would become a bigger and bigger problem, with new ghosts and people coming to live in Arborgast's mind reality and nobody is able to leave. Still, Aborgast won't face the truth buried deep in his memory. Does he know that this is a seperate reality? Or did he forget? Or does only his other self know, and keeps the information hidden? Or does Arborgast know and angst about it? (I don't much like the last one...he's supposed to be at least surfacely pure and innocent)

Maybe the man in the dog suit and Statue Man are friends. Or better yet, enemies. Because the man in the dog suit pees on the Statue Man. Hehe.

"He gets to the coffin and as soon as he touches it his nose bleeds and falls on the coffin and the blood spells out something like, "Whatever is left leads you to the exit" referring to Arborgast's eye. He quickly redigs the grave and leaves."

'Whatever is left'--does that mean that Arborgast's eye is the only real thing in the alternate reality? That is, if we're going with my previous ideas. Perhaps he tore out his eye when he left his corpse...this is still kind of fuzzy. We'll need to think of the details of the creation of the crazy Ferncliffe.

PS: Do you know this teh_vegeta guy who requested to join this community? I have to admit I don't want people I don't know adding to the story. I've always thought of this as a you/me thing, but maybe you don't agree?
"But I love the idea of him having a copy of himself that he murdered, through some twist of magic/supernaturality. Perhaps a split personality that split off from him? A psycho Arborgast that he had to eject from himself so that he could save the world from himself? Of course, since it's a part of himself, it's not really dead, but the fact that it has a corpse and is planted under the willow helps him believe it. Or something. Tell me what you think."

ZOMG~DON! I totally had that image but I didn't want to say anything because I thought it would be too dramatic and you wouldn't go for it. I had drew this picture of Arborgast holding his monocle, about to take it off, with a evil look on his face as smoke or spirit fog billows out from the monocle. Also his clothes are levitating from all the spirit energy. I think maybe he killed himself to stop his evil side and somehow created this nexus which the town is contained in. Or perhaps another idea I was playing with was that Arborgast witnessed such a horrible event he wanted to forget it and created the nexus. Even if there wasn't an evil side, he would be resurrected at the end anyway because of the ending we planned.I just image his 'real' body laying under the tree with the roots growing aroun him, twisting around his limbs as if to hold him down and keep him there, or to somehow protect him. I really want to make this picture of Arborgast tombstone where it was chained down to the earth. I really do like the idea though that he wouldn't have a tombstone because that would just remind him of his death.

"I adore the Nicklin killing Arborgast idea. I mean, I can picture him, after all the morbid hilarity of trying to murder someone, he finally succeeds. He had a mental breakdown, maybe rocking back and forth in a fetal position, and then we see Arborgast walk away whistling. Hehe."

I think Nicklin is going to have tons of mental breakdowns, I'm surprise he wouldn't go slightly mad. LOL I had this weird thought yesterday about either John H. Thomas or just another dog someone owns in town. Nicklin would just be walking through the town and see a dog. But on looking closer realized it is a man in a dog suit. The dog/man looks at him deadpane, woofs, and looks the other way. And it would be a woof that sounds like a man is doing it too. Nicklin FREAKS! And maybe cries, too.

I also have this other scene in my head where Nicklin finds his tombstone in the cemetary and this is another mystery that intrigues and if not slightly disturbs him. So overcome with fear and curiosity, goes to the cemetary to dig up his grave. He gets to the coffin and as soon as he touches it his nose bleeds and falls on the coffin and the blood spells out something like, "Whatever is left leads you to the exit" referring to Arborgast's eye. He quickly redigs the grave and leaves.

"OMG CONVERSE'S TICKLE GHOST IS AMAZING. The awkward laughing scenes will be freakalicious to craft. It'll also be useful when trying to pull of the "Cool Converse" parts. Do you remember? Converse Knox is supposed to be incredibly cool, but a failure at life. Totally incompetent. So we could have him walking down the street with a bored look on his face, and he'll pass some girls who are like "Oh he's so cool!" And then he'll twitch and giggle."

Yes! I've had some problems with that lately because I've been reading some hilarous things in the computer lab and everytime I laugh out loud, so many weird looks.

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